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#196565 - 02/15/06 02:17 PM en Route magazine article
Cricketgrrl Offline
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On a recent flight on Air Canada, there was an article about lab-created diamonds in the en Route magazine. Takara Diamonds was mentioned for their high quality stones and in particular, the recent purplish-pink stones!

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#196566 - 02/16/06 05:08 PM Re: en Route magazine article [Re: Cricketgrrl]
lessw Offline

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HI Cricketgrrl,
Very cool to hear! I'll have to see if we can get a copy of it for posterity.

Now if we could only get the lab to actually produce more pinks that meet our quality bar, we'd be in business again :-)

(We have been sold out of pinks for the past 6 months now...)

Anyway, thanks again!
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#196567 - 02/16/06 07:16 PM What about flawed takara stones [Re: lessw]
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Just out of curiosity, do you know what they do with the ones that are flawed? Couldn't they still sell them at a discounted price? I know I would buy a pink or blue that isn't absolutely perfect. One of the tings I get the most compliments on is a 1.96 I3 champagne diamond!!!

BTW, nice to see you-say Hi to Christine for me!



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#196568 - 02/17/06 02:13 AM Re: What about flawed takara stones [Re: starstruck]
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Good point, I think many of us who cannot afford the "perfect" ones may be very interested in the lower grade SI's and nicer I stones if available. If they are cheap in genuine diamonds they may be even cheaper in the lab version.


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#196569 - 02/17/06 04:34 AM Re: What about flawed takara stones [Re: flanderslover]
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I, for one, wouldn't mind a "less than perfect" Takara. My 20th anniversary ring has an I1 princess that is just gorgeous.

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#196570 - 02/17/06 06:38 AM Re: What about flawed takara stones [Re: gemcat]
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I've been thinking about this and since BTD doesn't make the takara's themselves, they may have no control over it. The name of the company is on the tip of my tongue unless BTD is making the stones now.


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#196571 - 02/17/06 08:19 AM Re: What about flawed takara stones [Re: flanderslover]
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Quote:

Good point, I think many of us who cannot afford the "perfect" ones may be very interested in the lower grade SI's and nicer I stones if available. If they are cheap in genuine diamonds they may be even cheaper in the lab version.




I think the mis-perception here is that by buying an SI diamond, you would get a *much* better price, and unfortunately, that is not the case. Based on the way the lab prices them, you might save a couple hundred dollars (for 2-3,000 purchase). Thus, maybe 5-10% savings...you wouldn't be getting a 50% off type of price if thats what you are thinking.

Remember that for colored diamonds, there are really only three C's: Color, Color and Color. Clarity does not impact pricing nearly the way it does in whites...some of the worlds most expensive diamonds are Red color diamonds that are I1-clarity. The clarity is not really relevant, its all about color. GIA even offers color grading for fancy color diamonds that doesn't even list the clarity to give you an idea of where clarity impacts things.

Additionally, the quality bar is not merely the clarity - we've sold a few very nice looking SI's in the past. The quality really encompasses the beauty of the stone.

Thus, funky or off-colors are one's we won't accept for sale and its really the color grade that cuts out most of the stones.

Additionally, last year the lab decided they wanted to do their own cutting instead of us buying rough, and so many of the stones were poorly cut. If its too deep, you get a very deep colored halo ringing the table of the stone, and if too shallow, you get a washout of the color all around the outside edge of the stone.

In any of the above cases, the beauty of the finished diamond is impacted, and would not be what people would view as a beautiful fancy color diamond....and hence why we won't offer them for sale. The quality bar again is to ensure that the finished Takara diamond is visually a beautiful lab diamond.

Lastly, I should add that the lab simply has not produced at all since roughly last September - flawed or not flawed, it doesn't matter since they've had no new production to speak of. We've got lots and lots on backorder and they haven't called yet to say they have filled anything.

Hope that helps!
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#196572 - 02/17/06 08:53 AM Re: What about flawed takara stones [Re: lessw]
BondAngel Offline
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Thanks Less!! That was really interesting info!!

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#196573 - 02/17/06 02:13 PM Re: What about flawed takara stones [Re: BondAngel]
lessw Offline

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I found the article online:
http://www.enroutemag.com/e/february06/feature2_a.html

Thanks again for posting about this CricketGrrl!

Best regards,
Less

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#196574 - 02/17/06 02:29 PM Re: What about flawed takara stones [Re: lessw]
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You're welcome, Less! It was quite a blast reading it "live!"

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