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#591316 - 01/13/11 08:43 AM
Re: AVC, ACC, OMC,OMG so confused about Asha/Interlap colors/cut
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Wow! Great info MGR:)
So, can someone please tell me what DH means when referring to loved ones? I'm sure it's painfully obvious. I just missed the boat;)
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#591321 - 01/13/11 09:01 AM
Re: AVC, ACC, OMC,OMG so confused about Asha/Interlap colors/cut
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BTD Crown Jewel
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Darling husband.
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#592153 - 01/17/11 10:37 AM
Re: AVC, ACC, OMC,OMG so confused about Asha/Interlap colors/cut
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The Florentine Diamond
Registered: 08/20/04
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Loc: Boise, Idaho
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Asha definitely has more durability and longevity than an interlap. Interlap is a CZ, Wink sells them with the brand WinkCZs and they are really nice, but Asha's have the amorphous diamond layer and the optical layer and are basically as close to a diamond you can get.If you want to pass the stone off as a diamond I would go for the Asha, no one will be able to tell, unless they are a very experienced jeweler AND looking at your stone through a loupe. I have an asha, and I'm upgrading to a Moissanite (a gorgeous 2ct and I plan to tell EVERYONE it is a moissy) because I really don't feel good about claiming my stone is a diamond when it isn't. It works for some ladies, but I have problems with the diamond industry and I think pretending I have a diamond is still supporting that industry, and I don't want to enforce the stupid notion that a woman MUST have a diamond in her engagement ring. Some women claim their Moissies are diamonds as well, but asha's definitely look closer to the real thing. All of the Asha cuts are realistic, RB is most common, cushion and princess cuts follow I think. When you buy your asha make sure the stone size is believable for how much you would spend right now if you bought a diamond. The best way to tell the difference between cuts is to research them, I particularly like the videos here: http://vimeo.com/diamondinfo I want to gently disagree with you, a little. I will color code my comments so that people can see what I am responding to. While it is true that the Asha has the coating and is somewhat more durable at 9.1 on the Moh's scale of hardness than the traditional CZ's 8.5, I have found that most people can not tell the difference between it and one of my stones. Both are incredibly well cut and I am proud to sell both of them, but we had to quit sending out two of the same size for people to compare, as they came back in the wrong paper a very high percentage of the time. (At least 25% of the time.) Both look better than all but the best cut diamonds too! I definitely agree with your comment that it will take someone with a lot of knowledge to identify either as a CZ rather than a diamond, they both look that good. Many people have a negative image of the diamond industry that is largely incorrect in my opinion. While I recognize that there have been abuses, particularly in war torn areas, I think we in the jewelery industry do not get proper credit for the tremendous efforts made to keep these conflict goods out of the distribution channels. The Kimberlee accords were worked on for many years before the mainstream press came along and too credit for forcing them on the industry. Hollywood too got into the act with their sensationalized depictions in such movies as Blood Diamond to further attempt to convince people that diamonds are somehow intrinsically evil. In fact, in those areas not torn by war, it is the diamond industry that provides jobs and thus food for native populations that would otherwise live in abject poverty. Could it be better? Absolutely. Will it get better? Not if the world turns its back on diamonds. So far, efforts by some, such as Martin Rapaport, to create a fair trade environment for artisanal diggers have run in to the obstacle of the public not being willing to pay more for their diamonds so that these diamonds can be purchased for more than they are currently. Most will still not pay the extra ten percent premium for the Canadian goods, as is evidenced by the recent bankruptcy of at least one Canadian mine. Just my thoughts on a wet Monday morning. I do not mean this to be any thing more than a mild disagreement with your post. I respect your feelings about diamonds, they are, after all, your feelings. I just wanted to state mine as well. Wink
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#592981 - 01/20/11 12:51 PM
Re: AVC, ACC, OMC,OMG so confused about Asha/Interlap colors/cut
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Fiend
Registered: 11/24/10
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Many people have a negative image of the diamond industry that is largely incorrect in my opinion. While I recognize that there have been abuses, particularly in war torn areas, I think we in the jewelery industry do not get proper credit for the tremendous efforts made to keep these conflict goods out of the distribution channels.
The Kimberlee accords were worked on for many years before the mainstream press came along and too credit for forcing them on the industry. Hollywood too got into the act with their sensationalized depictions in such movies as Blood Diamond to further attempt to convince people that diamonds are somehow intrinsically evil.
In fact, in those areas not torn by war, it is the diamond industry that provides jobs and thus food for native populations that would otherwise live in abject poverty.
Could it be better? Absolutely. Will it get better? Not if the world turns its back on diamonds.
So far, efforts by some, such as Martin Rapaport, to create a fair trade environment for artisanal diggers have run in to the obstacle of the public not being willing to pay more for their diamonds so that these diamonds can be purchased for more than they are currently. Most will still not pay the extra ten percent premium for the Canadian goods, as is evidenced by the recent bankruptcy of at least one Canadian mine.
Just my thoughts on a wet Monday morning. I do not mean this to be any thing more than a mild disagreement with your post. I respect your feelings about diamonds, they are, after all, your feelings. I just wanted to state mine as well.
Wink Hi Wink, I'm sorry to be responding to this thread a bit late. But I just wanted to point out a quick thing that I don't think the diamond industry is still able to address. For me, lets say we put aside the political aspect of blood diamonds and political conflict associated w/ the trade. lets say that's all put aside and worked out. What I still can't come to grips with is the environmental aspect. While this issue may not be important to many, it is important to me. I can't justify blowing open the side of a mountain, moving tons of soil, displacing local animals and vegetation in order for me to have some shiny rock on my hand. I can survive in life perfectly fine without that. I don't meant to sound pretentious, but my fiance and I can afford a relatively decent 1.3 ct - 1.5 GIA grade F/G SI1+ cushion cut diamond. We had a lot of discussion about this issue and came to the conclusion that this was not something we wanted to do simply due to the environmental issues, also our view of that it was just an extravagant purchase for something that really at the end of the day is a very beautiful shiny stone. It just does not match up with our view on what's important in the world. I can PROMISE you that I am not the only woman out there who makes the choice to not purchase a diamond simply due to environmental reasons. Now, I know one day I'll be replacing the Asha with a real diamond... I hoping that will be either be the one that I inherit, from well made lab that is able to finally create well made colorless diamonds, or somehow look for and find a vintage stone (although this one I don't like that much either, because it will still be supporting the diamond trade) If none of the above happen I will purchase a well made lab created gem stone OR just keep putting Asha's in it. I will do what I can to not support the diamond trade. I simply cannot justify the environmental damage that's created because of it.
Edited by petals (01/20/11 01:25 PM)
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