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#648944 - 08/04/11 11:07 AM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro ***** [Re: lessw]
Cricketgrrl Offline
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Originally Posted By: lessw
Regarding the OEC's - yes, we will be able to Mira-ize them for those customers that want it.

Hope that helps,
Less

Oh, yeah! This *more* than helps! love grin

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#648945 - 08/04/11 11:27 AM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro [Re: lessw]
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And I have an 8mm on order with MoissaniteCo!! Can't wait for it to arrive. Whee!! grin

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#648970 - 08/04/11 01:02 PM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro [Re: lessw]
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Wait??? so is your 8mm that is on order with MoissaniteCo the new OEC or is it going to have the Mira treatment? And are you just in the waiting list or did they officially make them for sale?

I know a lot of ladies in that OEC forum are saying that they like the warmer OECs. However being that I have CZs in my setting now, it is too big of a leap for me to go from "D" to "K". I like the G / H idea. I might be able to wrap my mind around "warmer" if I had lots of pieces but we have to send 3 kids to college so I want my one ring to be "perfect" - so I love the Mira idea with the OEC.


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#648991 - 08/04/11 01:57 PM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro [Re: lessw]
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I am on the waiting list with them for the OECs being cut now from C&C. I'm hoping that MoissaniteCo can send it to BTD for the Mira treatment, then to me. smile

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#649002 - 08/04/11 02:53 PM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro [Re: gemcat]
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Originally Posted By: gemcat
I am on the waiting list with them for the OECs being cut now from C&C. I'm hoping that MoissaniteCo can send it to BTD for the Mira treatment, then to me. smile

+1, that would be perfect! love


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#649041 - 08/04/11 05:21 PM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro [Re: lessw]
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couldnt agree more with gracey!

and WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to the mira treatment for the oecs!!!

and gracey, ino personally for me the mira treatment isnt about making it whiter bc i do love warmer stones, im just happy i dont have to deal with the shrek stone when the sky clouds over laugh laugh laugh



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#649235 - 08/05/11 01:18 PM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro [Re: lessw]
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Originally Posted By: lessw
Originally Posted By: Macy
Are there any legal prohibitions on BTD making/growing its own silicon carbide, or can only Cree do so?


Anyone can grow their own if they have the know how to do it and they are not violating a patent on someone's growing technique.

It is however, not easy to grow, but easier than how hard it is to grow diamond. There are probably 8 other companies that also grow Silicon Carbide besides Cree.

Cree does have a number of patents on how to grow, but that's their own unique way of growing. There are multiple ways to configure to grow including CVD, PVT, M-PVT, etc.

There is no patent on simply growing SiC - it's been grown in one way or another for 80 years or so (though only the past 20 that they could grow really large, high purity single crystals).

Hope that helps,
Less


So if I understand you correctly, Less....you're saying that if you had the know-how, equipment, your own technique, etc. you could grow your own Silicon Carbide. But then C&C's patent would prevent you from cutting it and selling it as a gemstone, is that right?


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#649325 - 08/05/11 07:26 PM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro [Re: kudzu]
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Originally Posted By: kudzu

So if I understand you correctly, Less....you're saying that if you had the know-how, equipment, your own technique, etc. you could grow your own Silicon Carbide. But then C&C's patent would prevent you from cutting it and selling it as a gemstone, is that right?



Yes, that's exactly it.

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#649327 - 08/05/11 07:43 PM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro [Re: lessw]
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Hi all,
Its Friday and wanted to post the usual weekly summary.

1 - We were able to process a fair number of rounds and so many of the sold out sizes (8mm, 9mm, etc) will be restocking this coming Monday.

2 - Cushions - we have pre-screened a pretty large batch (most passed this time) and those will be treated end of next week. We're expanding the sizes to include 6mm, 6.5mm, etc. with this run.
These cushions should be ready around Aug 17th or so.

3 - Princess - we're going to try a few princess cuts after the cushions are done and see how those do.


On more general topics: I asked NAGL to go ahead and cert two of the raw Moissanite cushions so we could document what Charles and Colvard bills as 'near colorless'. Thus, here are two sample certs of regular moissanite cushions:



and a 7.5mm that was definitely the lowest color of the rejects from the first pre-screen:



We had a mishap at the office where one of our staff was not aware of what was arriving and pulled only some of the Mira's out of the box. Thus 7 Mira's that arrived from the grading lab were accidentally tossed out in the trash and were not recoverable. That was pretty awful.

But, if you are in Washington and see some crows or bluejays flying around sporting some impressive sparklies, you'll know they found the Mira's in the landfill.

We are continuing to do some background work to prepare for the eventual launch of H&A Mira's outside the US, and our automation at our lab is paying off now.

Lastly, I've been deliberating on either posting some info on the fundamentals of Moissanite and Mira to answer common questions I see, or perhaps making some basic videos that might help people learn more about SiC in general and more specifically about what is Mira exactly.

We have had some discussions with a university and we are looking at having them do some testing on both Mira vs. untreated Moissanite to help show that the treatment either does not change the durability or possibly slightly improves it to counter C&C's apparent strategy of FUD regarding Mira (fear, uncertainty and doubt).

Have a good weekend,
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#649329 - 08/05/11 07:52 PM Re: Meet Mira(tm)...a sneak, brief intro [Re: lessw]
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Thanks for the update Less!!

OMGosh! I can't believe someone threw some sacred Mira's into the trash!! I am sure they felt awful, lol.

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