well its done now and i appreciate your honesty, and do hope you'll stay

Coming-By joining this forum, I found a group of woman that were intelligent, funny, supportive and shared a love for rings that few others really understand. I'm not sure how this situation with Miss KK's post got so out of hand and out of control. My response to her note was taken totally out of context,a dne verything that many here are accusing a few of have in turned done the same thing. Everybody has their opionion, MissKK has her's and was deeply upset, she has the right to voice that. I am not one to confront something like that. truth be told it has always made me unconfortable when evr I read unhappy results discussed in regard to Vendors. So I would never have choosen to post in that manner, but that is just me. It does not make MissKK wrong, again it is her opinion. What concerned me is how damaging that can be a Vendor. In the past 18 mo, I have purchased 7 rings-3 from AD, 1-from MoissCo, 1 from Wink, 1 from BTD and recently 1 from Amcor and recently just purchased stones from AD for what I hoped would be a future project. If you really read my post, I'm not sure how any of you who were so criticial of what I said could be interpreted as negative. MissKK herself made a cooment back directly to me which I found equally offensive, but yet I did not see one of you rush to my defense the way that all of you have circled the wagon and remain critical of a few who felt the need to respond
Going-My decision to take time away form the Forum was my personal decision to step back, (after all purchasing 7 rings in this short of time is a lot) is what I fill I need and had nothing to do w/MissKK. I get the fact that I have not been here very long and there are those of you that are much smater and have many more post, but there at times on this forum seems to be an age gap. I feel I have always been respectful and alwayd tried to be kind to the memebers here. However, given the tone this has now taken what was first intended to be a temporary break , I have now decided will be permanant. As I stated before , I wish you all the best. This wa sreally fun but like all things in life, things change and people move on.

I just PM'd you SB. I don't know what happened, but if you need to vent, I'm here for you girl. We've all got opinions, and we're all entitled to share them. I'm sorry you feel you need to leave the forum permanently.

SB, I don't think you did anything wrong either, and would sad if you left too. This isn't what this is supposed to be about. We *should* all be respecting one another here and whether or not we share an experience, it shouldn't matter. I hope you will reconsider as well.

As a vendor here typically I keep my opinions to myself when it comes to controversial issues. In my observation though, I've seen that some people can post an opinion or experience being either positive or negative, and get tons of support from their "group". To use SB's phrase we "Circle the Wagon". But when someone from outside the "group" posts a dissenting opinion or experience we may attack them.

So, if your opinion matches the opinion of the "group" we are warm and friendly. If your opinion challenges the opinion of the "group" we sometimes treat you like a pariah. We do not treat everyone respectfully. Typically then, the dissenter feels unwelcome and disappears, and the group stays intact.

I have been on the boards for a few years, this is not new, and this too shall pass.


PS. this is starting to feel like a moral support thread.

SB, I didn't see your post as being an issue at all. Not that that changes anything for you, but I'm just letting you know. We're all entitled to our opinions as long as we're open to discussion. Respect is a big deal and everyone SHOULD feel it. My upset was with the post someone else made, not you.

I really hope you stay, but if you cannot, I do understand. It's true, we grow, we move on and everyone changes. I love it here, because I have met some wonderful women. But there have been times that I was a bit miffed-it's going to happen with any large group.

If you have any inclination to stay I'd hope you'd do so. It wouldn't be the same place without you!

Poppy,
It's totally true. I do think there are different factors to consider with many of those disparate situations. Some people have tones to their posts which don't feel respectful-like they're just having a bad time and lashing out. They don't get the same love as someone who is heartbroken over a mistake. People who have no real recourse to right a perceived wrong will post in a different manner than someone who had something go really awry, but is satisfied at how it was handled.

We are also more quick to believe someone we "know" when they have an issue, than someone who has 5 posts. I think that's just human nature. If someone has a long standing love of sims, has experienced several and has a complaint then we're more likely to listen because we're fairly certain their expectations are realistic. If it's someone's first sim and they're flipping out? Maybe not so much. Is it right? No. Everyone orders a piece hoping to really love it and when that doesn't happen they should be supported. But there's a way to approach it when you are doing so on a forum where people love their sims! Yeah, you come in here flipping out about how terrible the service was and how cheap the stones look you bet your butt we're gonna circle the wagons! Not just for the vendors, but because we feel attacked!

Anyway, my point is that this is a civil place, but we're all people with good days and bad days. It's not always easy to get along, but we do our best. Perhaps this event is a good time to look at our individual reactions to certain things and try to understand for ourselves. In the mean time though, I'm certainly happy to be here and give support to whomever is needing it at any given time. That doesn't mean I won't speak my mind, but I will try to do so from the heart and not the ego.

I totally agree with what Poppy has said.... I try to stay out of these kind of threads.... not because I don't care what's going on... just because when you have been here as long as I have and have seen this thing happen before there is just going to be a lot of members with hurt feelings and not wanting to use the forum.....

MissKK had ever right to say what she did... all she was trying to do was get better quality controll for those of us that love to us Amcor for our jewelry....

I don't think what SB said was out of line either.... she was just trying to say that for her own self there has been times she has gotten wrapped up in jeweler and forgot about what might have been important to her....

.... but when someone joins this forum just to try and hurt one of us more then they already are... I'm mean heck people this is a jewelry forum for those of us that have JEWELRY ON THE BRAIN!!!! then we are going to cut that person down... I made it to KK's thread to late to ask the gem what ever person why did they feel it was so important for them to make an account to post something negative about a board member that has been her longer then there 20minutes of a new account.... it was just someone trying to hurt someone else.... I don't know why they felt to do that ... I know by them doing that they had never wanted to be a part of the family here....

..... I think it would be best if the entire topic might would get dropped and just let everyone and that's a part of this take a break and step back... I've done and had this talk with MissKK before any of this other stuff took place... just to step back and when the time is right and you feel better about a lot of things then we will still be here with the light on and door open ..... families fight and disagree... that's what we do... but we still love each other.... well at least I do... I can find a terrific quality in every lady that graces this forum.... and I call you all my friends.... even if you might not call me that.... but I hope that KK and SB both decide to stay....

........ I love you all.... from the bottom of my heart.... I truly mean that....

Ladies, this thread is turning into a moral support thread, and while I understand the need to sympathize and care for our own, it is against the rules. This thread is good for talking about our daily goings on, but let's keep it light and noncontroversial to prevent it getting locked down.

Thanks for your understanding.