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#705895 - 01/24/12 12:49 AM OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...?
MlleJulie Offline
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I'm upgrading my e-ring and I've been wanting an OEC for a long time, but I am a bit worried about a few things, maybe you can help.

If I could just dream I would have an Amora gem OEC or AVR but it doesn't seem like that's gonna happen anytime soon. I'm not in a hurry and could wait but I don't wanna wait forever... So I'm considering a 1.25 or 1.5 OEC amora-ized moissanite. But I'm worried about the green tint that many people have been talking about. And how yellow is it really? But on the positive side, if it's too white and too perfect it might look fake or what do you think? I'm ok with I color, but what if it's closer to K color... I still want it to look white even if there is a slight warmth to it.

I'll be wearing the ring next to a RB diamond band (probably color G/H, I haven't purchased it yet), will it look nice together or will it look odd with the different colors and different gemstones?

And lastly, how does the OEC moissanite compare to an OEC diamond? Maybe an I/J color will make the moissanite more realistic (I mean more diamond-like) than an F color Amora gem OEC - what do you think?

And if you have any pics for reference, please don't hesitate to post!


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#705904 - 01/24/12 04:36 AM Re: OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...? [Re: MlleJulie]
morning glory Offline
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Could you wait a few months, a year? Less said they should know about the patent this spring and they are starting production on Amora Gem in the summer. Many here are plotting how to get one even if the patent is not overturned (use mail forwarding service, etc).

You could order the Amora moissy loose and see how you like it. Given how many people seem to be color sensitive that would be the best way to go. Some here will tell you the color is fine, some will say it has too much color for them.


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#705931 - 01/24/12 07:04 AM Re: OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...? [Re: MlleJulie]
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Honestly, I don't think an Amora Gem OEC will ever exist. Hopefully I'm wrong, but antique cuts are pretty low on the priority list, unfortunately. Just like with the Ashas, the antique cuts are the slowest movers and sit in inventory for a loooong time. Considering the cost of what it takes to make an Amora Gem, I highly doubt Less would want anything to sit in inventory for long. Less is working with Jonathan (GOG) on an antique cushion prototype (which would be my DREAM!), but that might be the only antique cut for a really long time. This forum is not the average customer base... the vast majority of BTD's customers want F color H&A stones, not a tinted antique. wink

All that being said, the Amora enhancement is supposed to remove any green tint and make the stone a couple shades whiter. I have an 8mm moissy OEC (un-enhanced) and it's absolutely K/L color. It's extremely warm! It faces up whiter in different lighting situations, but outdoors it usually turns a lovely buttery color. love It's very diamond-like! I wrote an extensive color review somewhere in my ring thread. I vote for the Amora-enhanced OEC for sure! smile


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#705938 - 01/24/12 07:21 AM Re: OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...? [Re: MlleJulie]
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+1 Milady! I agree I dont think an oec amora gem will ever happen. I'm getting am oec moissy from moissaniteco and I might have the amora treatment on it. You can email moissaniteco to see if they have the size you want to reserve one. They're getting them in the next month or weeks but who knows. It's 10% down to reserve them. Man I'd LOVE a five or four stone oec cut bezel band with miligrain!! Hopefully they're still making them in a year.

In another thread I mentioned that I believe the low color and cut adds to the belieavability of a real diamond since who can compare it to theirs? Virtually no one! Looking on pricescope, the real deal oec's are low colors and they do change hues in different lighting. So I'm pretty confident in the color with this stone, as long as there is no green!


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#705941 - 01/24/12 07:28 AM Re: OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...? [Re: MlleJulie]
morning glory Offline
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No OEC Amora Gem? Say it isn't so!!! I think we need Less to give us odds on this because they aren't going to do the Amora enhancement once Amora Gem is available so the only option would be unenhanced. I'm not likely to want/need one for a few years but I was hoping for the option. frown
I'd take the Amora AVC but at this point in time that is my second choice.


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#705942 - 01/24/12 07:32 AM Re: OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...? [Re: morning glory]
Milady Offline
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Originally Posted By: morning glory
I think we need Less to give us odds on this because they aren't going to do the Amora enhancement once Amora Gem is available so the only option would be unenhanced.

Hmm, I thought they were going to continue the Amora enhancement as long as they don't make an Amora Gem in that cut. So if an Amora Gem OEC doesn't exist, then they will still provide the enhanced version of the regular moissy OEC. But an Amora Gem H&A exists so they wouldn't also provide the Amora-enhancement. Does that makes sense? I could be wrong, but it seems logical to me that they would still offer the enhancement as long as the same cut isn't offered as an Amora Gem.


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#705945 - 01/24/12 07:37 AM Re: OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...? [Re: Milady]
morning glory Offline
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Originally Posted By: Milady

Hmm, I thought they were going to continue the Amora enhancement as long as they don't make an Amora Gem in that cut. So if an Amora Gem OEC doesn't exist, then they will still provide the enhanced version of the regular moissy OEC. But an Amora Gem H&A exists so they wouldn't also provide the Amora-enhancement. Does that makes sense? I could be wrong, but it seems logical to me that they would still offer the enhancement as long as the same cut isn't offered as an Amora Gem.

I hope you are right on that Milady!! The Amora threads are soooooo long it is completely possible that I missed it.

I would hate to miss out on an enhanced OEC but I'm not going to buy one now if I don't need it for a few years. Who knows what might be available by then, lol.


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#705963 - 01/24/12 09:02 AM Re: OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...? [Re: MlleJulie]
Eleanore Offline
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How come there are no Amoras for sale from 6mm on up? Is BTD fazing them out already in anticipation of the Amora H&A gem--or will they be replenishing them soon? Does anyone know?


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#705965 - 01/24/12 09:10 AM Re: OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...? [Re: MlleJulie]
Milady Offline
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Eleanore, Less has discussed that in the Amora blog. If I remember correctly, the rejection rate was much higher than anticipated and they also had a really bad ice storm that may have delayed things. They are replinishing as quickly as they can, but it is not a speedy process. They are definitely not phasing out... that wouldn't make sense because they still have the patent issue for the Amora gem.


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#706257 - 01/25/12 12:56 AM Re: OEC Amora moissanite - to buy or not to buy...? [Re: Milady]
MlleJulie Offline
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Thanks for your replies! smile I'm also afraid that they'll stop the amora treatment once BTD has the Amora gem for sale - or that C&C will discontinue their OEC and there will be no Amora gem OEC/AVR... Does anyone know how long it was before Asha OEC was launched? Anyway, I emailed moissaniteco and the color for amora enhanced OEC is K which is pretty warm in my opinion, but I haven't seen it in person so I don't know how I would feel about it and if it would look yellow next to a G/H colored diamond band. I'm planning to have a modern setting and that's why I'm concerned about the color. If I had a vintage setting I wouldn't mind at all.

Originally Posted By: Milady
Honestly, I don't think an Amora Gem OEC will ever exist. Hopefully I'm wrong, but antique cuts are pretty low on the priority list, unfortunately. Just like with the Ashas, the antique cuts are the slowest movers and sit in inventory for a loooong time. Considering the cost of what it takes to make an Amora Gem, I highly doubt Less would want anything to sit in inventory for long. Less is working with Jonathan (GOG) on an antique cushion prototype (which would be my DREAM!), but that might be the only antique cut for a really long time. This forum is not the average customer base... the vast majority of BTD's customers want F color H&A stones, not a tinted antique. wink

All that being said, the Amora enhancement is supposed to remove any green tint and make the stone a couple shades whiter. I have an 8mm moissy OEC (un-enhanced) and it's absolutely K/L color. It's extremely warm! It faces up whiter in different lighting situations, but outdoors it usually turns a lovely buttery color. love It's very diamond-like! I wrote an extensive color review somewhere in my ring thread. I vote for the Amora-enhanced OEC for sure! smile


Your ring is so beautiful, Milady!! Absolutely gorgeous! It looks really white in most of the pictures, I'm surprised it's that warm in real life.

I would have guessed the amora treatment would make an unenhanced L-M colored stone whiter than K color, but seems like it doesn't. I read somewhere that the Amora treatment doesn't remove the green completely, that nothing can eliminate it.


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