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#716859 - 02/29/12 07:13 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: Milady]
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yes on the website it says its from catherine ryders verona collection...

that stinks that they copied u erica frown

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#716866 - 02/29/12 07:23 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: Milady]
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It does stink. When Schubach's received Milady's Lily to make the modifications, Joe very courteously emailed me, noting that we had discontinued it, and requested our permission to copy the design for his customers. We appreciated the request and politely declined - even though it's currently discontinued, we hope to one day begin making it again. Besides which, it's our design, one of our babies, and we want to keep it proprietary.

In any case, this is the type of professional courtesy and integrity that we've grown to expect, so it's quite a shock when someone completely disregards another designer's property this way.

SIGH. Maybe it just means that we've "arrived", eh? When our designs are being copied, it's quite a compliment I suppose.

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#716869 - 02/29/12 07:27 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: Milady]
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Really does stink. I think Lily is gorgeous, always have. At the same time that Joe from Schubachs was very courteous, the Lily design is not copyrighted. They can do what they want. (right? I think?) It may not be the type of professionalism you'd expect, but as I am sure you know, people can dissapoint you.... frown



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#716872 - 02/29/12 07:33 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: Milady]
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Even copyrighted designs are knocked off all the time. It's a reflection on the jeweler doing the copying. And many unique and proprietary designs are not copyrighted.

Interestingly, I emailed Catherine Ryder and brought it to their attention, and requested removal from their site.

I received this reply just now from someone named Roger Frysh:

"Erica,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. The piece has been removed from our site."

Ummmm, that was simple. But haven't they already manufactured it and distributed it to some stores?

I'm more confused than ever, lol.

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#716873 - 02/29/12 07:36 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: Milady]
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More interestingly, though I emailed [email protected], the reply came from roger@georgiadiamond.

Curiouser and curiouser...

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#716874 - 02/29/12 07:36 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: Milady]
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Hmm...wow that was easy, lol...

Hmm...wonder if they are not the ones who manufacture the ring but distribute it on behalf of another company?

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#716876 - 02/29/12 07:39 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: Milady]
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http://www.georgiadiamond.com/

looks like they own several online retail stores. They use the same website layout.



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#716877 - 02/29/12 07:40 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: Milady]
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This reminds me of ebay sellers who steal our pics. Happens pretty often. Sometimes they squeeze the image or try to alter the color, but our images are pretty unique and I remember most of our stones and can spot them pretty quickly. They always leave them up until they're caught, then remove them. Then, sure enough, a few weeks later they're using another one of our photos.

I don't really know what to do next!

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#716878 - 02/29/12 07:41 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: Milady]
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#716879 - 02/29/12 07:42 AM Re: JbEG "Lily" with 8mm moissy OEC [Re: BeMyValentine]
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Originally Posted By: BeMyValentine
http://www.georgiadiamond.com/

looks like they own several online retail stores. They use the same website layout.


Very interesting! I bet they're also behind the other couple of sites that sell "Catherine Ryder" pieces (they all have Georgia or Texas locations). Maybe there's no Catherine Ryder after all - could just be a brand they made up!

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