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#732763 - 04/18/12 04:43 AM
Re: Annoying diamond snobs on other forums
[Re: Vanillabeanz]
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The Imperial Diamond
Registered: 03/27/09
Posts: 6339
Loc: NY
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This was my favourite reply:
1. We could have afforded a diamond.
2. We could have afforded an even larger diamond when we changed my rings later on due to allergies.
3. I completely open that I wear moissanite but no I do not wear a shirt that announces it.
4. If people are uninformed enough to assume any nom-coloured stone is diamond that is not my responsibility.
5. There are plenty of stones that are more costly than diamonds. A pigeon blood ruby for one.
6. People who think a physical object gives them status are lacking in a lot of other things. This goes for those who "show off" brands too.
7. Some of the wealthier people I have met show it off the least.
8. Wearing a 2ct diamond to me says "I spent $25k+" or inherited it. Period. It means they spent $25k+ less on other things.
9. I wear a moissanite as it is gorgeous, lustrous, durable and I do not get excited about diamonds or paying money I work hard for on what I believe is overpriced. I DO own some diamonds but it is the personality of my moissanite that interest me.
Finally....
10. "You cannot buy class" Loved this comeback!
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#732885 - 04/18/12 08:19 AM
Re: Annoying diamond snobs on other forums
[Re: MissBrowner]
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Afficionado
Registered: 02/04/10
Posts: 650
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Ha, well, I am RayKay on the WB, so that is my quoted response. I almost left my paid for groceries behind at the store as I was typing that response on my iphone while paying & walking away I was so entranced.
I just can't get over how she actually thought it was totally acceptable (and even possible) to "buy status". WTH? There was a post on RockyTalky yesterday about English attitudes towards display of wealth she would have been wise to read. Maybe she would have realized wearing a plain gold band and a holey cardigan is a much better display of wealth and/or status than her 2ct (or whatever) natural diamond.
Snobbery like that just pisses me off. It has nothing to do with a preference for diamonds over moissanite, we all have our preferences and are allowed to have them and own them, but just the damn attitude behind it. It does come up now and then on the WB (it does on certain other diamond forums too, but since "we must not talk about you know what" on those forums it does not go anywhere!), and it irritates me every time. It just is such an elitist attitude. I just despise that elitist attitude in any form and in any circumstance. There is that Moissy v Diamond thread that was revived yesterday where one girl talks about how wearing moissy is "flashy and showing off" since it is a "wannabe-diamond". Oh, but of course she honestly had never even heard of moissanite and only googled it that same day so she could type such a well-informed response! She is wearing a 1.5ct Tacori that her "FI lovingly picked out for knowing she loved diamonds" and even though she herself said "the ring does not matter, but the sentiment behind it". I want to see her respond to my question as to whether she considers a 1.5 ct moissanite or anything lower as also showing off, or does it only apply to those who wear larger moissanites than her own stone is, because my guess is there will be a bit of cover-ass on that. Another girl talked about how she appreciated the "finer things in life and quality over quantity" so would not wear a moissanite ering. But, she was "too busy with grad school" to actually answer another posters question about what she means by "quality" and what makes a diamond "superior" as she also stated.
This snobbery is most definitely about some women being very, very pissed off that others can wear something that is beautiful and colourless without paying many thousands of dollars to do it, and of course not going around wearing a t-shirt that says "EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION, THIS IS NOT A DIAMOND, IT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT COLOURLESS STONE THAT YOU MAY THINK IS A DIAMOND BUT DON'T ASSUME THAT AS THAT WOULD MAKE ME A HORRIBLE FAKE PERSON AS ONLY DIAMONDS CAN BE COLOURLESS AND USED IN ENGAGEMENT RINGS!" Since moissanite wearers are enjoying their stones, the snobs feel a need to cut them down on something that is so personal. The snobs come out looking worse for wear, IMO and they certainly are not going to make ME like my moissanite any less given I actually have personal experience with it and love it.
It also becomes an "either/or" thing which is ridiculous when I know people who rock gorgeous diamonds AND moissanite or Asha (some of the sparkle sisters around here, for example!). I won't go out and buy a diamond, but I sure would not turn down the generous gift of a lovely antique stone if someone gave it to me!
There are tons of women with moissanite there though who do love it!
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#732891 - 04/18/12 08:35 AM
Re: Annoying diamond snobs on other forums
[Re: MissBrowner]
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Craving
Registered: 10/18/11
Posts: 92
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I think deep down the snobs feel foolish (and/or guilty) for spending so much money on a little rock--(whether .2 carats or 2 carats...after all it's still just a rock)--that they have to beat down others in order to justify and validate their decisions.
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#732895 - 04/18/12 08:37 AM
Re: Annoying diamond snobs on other forums
[Re: Bronte]
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Afficionado
Registered: 02/04/10
Posts: 650
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Sometimes people just need time and circumstance to get a little perspective in life. QFT!
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#732902 - 04/18/12 08:43 AM
Re: Annoying diamond snobs on other forums
[Re: Bronte]
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The Black Orlov
Registered: 03/15/09
Posts: 4190
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I think deep down the snobs feel foolish (and/or guilty) for spending so much money on a little rock--(whether .2 carats or 2 carats...after all it's still just a rock)--that they have to beat down others in order to justify and validate their decisions.
I think this is an unfair assumption. I think many people have bought WAY into the myth of the diamond and that others truly love that each stone is unique. There are many reasons to love diamonds, and just as many to love simulants/alternatives. TO each their own and some people really perceive the alternatives as "cheap" or "fake" and it offends their sensibilities. I'm just glad I'm not one of those people! I like beauty! I like sparkle! But I also wouldn't trade my natural stones for simulants because I think it's cool that they have a signature, that they're from the earth and that they are unique unto themselves. I also wouldn't trade my moissy/cz's either. I love them for what they are and feel privileged to own them! I am astonished daily by their beauty. The problem comes with the snobbery about it. I think that's unnecessary and unhelpful, but I also think that it doesn't serve for "us" to venture into that territory either. 
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#732904 - 04/18/12 08:47 AM
Re: Annoying diamond snobs on other forums
[Re: MissBrowner]
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BTD Crown Jewel
Registered: 03/01/11
Posts: 11368
Loc: Canada
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I don't think they feel guilty; I think they really believe themselves. I think that some people are just very arrogant and they honestly feel that their choice is better and that diamonds are better and that diamonds do equate to status. I think there are just people like that out there, with all sorts of different priorites. This girl really feels superior based on her purchase, and I doubt that will change. I have known people like this, and years later they are still at it, trying to one up you whenever they can, because it means something to *them*. She will forever be bothered by the fact that some people may be walking around with their "fakes" and getting all sorts of "status" attention, lol. It is so sad to me the lengths that some will go to try to belittle others. What a huge waste of energy, when she could just be looking at pics of tons of sparkly things and enjoying her apparent 2ct rock. I just don't get how people can not get that some of us really just like sparkly things!! If I liked the look of it on my hand, I would wear a 10ct, lol. I just like how 3ct looks. but I do tell people it is moissanite, and I say it without any sort of shame or issue, because I could care less. I love the way it looks and obv they did too, or we wouldn't be talking about it.
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#732907 - 04/18/12 09:00 AM
Re: Annoying diamond snobs on other forums
[Re: MissBrowner]
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Connoisseur
Registered: 02/15/11
Posts: 1729
Loc: Kansas
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I was thinking about this this morning and found it funny that she was calling people that wear moissanite "fake," but look who had to make up an annonymous screen name because she did't have the balls to say what she thought on her everyday name. She did that because she knew she was just wanting to cause problems and belittle people that, for whatever reason, don't wear diamonds. I hope she finds whatevers missing in her life that she thinks her diamonds and LV handbags can replace. What a sad, sad creature.
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#732927 - 04/18/12 09:45 AM
Re: Annoying diamond snobs on other forums
[Re: MissBrowner]
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Fiend
Registered: 03/15/12
Posts: 195
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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We're kinda getting on the flame territory here, people, and it doesn't help our cause much, lol. I realize that it's nice to vent, but I think we're at our limit... =]
Anyway, I truly think that another reason many people still think that diamonds are the one, superior stone is that all these new simulants are just that...new. For a long while, there were no good substitutes for diamonds, because all of them looked either plasticky or glassy. We've come a long way, but we have quite a few centuries worth of the "diamond-is-the-best" mindset to work through. Give it time.
(Specifically, give it enough time for the Amora Gem to come out and be readily available. Then we might have the world singing a bit of a different tune.) ;D
As for greed and entitlement, they will never go away until Jesus comes back, lol, so we'll just agree to disagree (and save tons of money while we're at it).
Who knows, maybe in 5 years the Amora Gem will become so widely recognized for its awesomeness that DeBeers will be forced to lower the prices of real diamonds and we can all have our preference for around the same price anyway! =D
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