Hi, Ladies. I wanted to talk about Asha princess cut. Is there anyone who has a ring with a princess cut asha?

I ordered a loose stone the other day. I had never seen asha before and I was very excited. Well... you guys were right, it was sooo beautiful and I couldnt believe my eyes!! I fell in love with it when I first saw it. Now my concern is, does it look like a real diamond when it's set? I read so many threads here to learn about asha, and I know some of you were able to pass it off as a diamond. But I didnt see many comments about "Princess cut". So just wondering how good/realistic princess cut is....


I have a princess cut diamond ring. You can see some pictures of it if you check my other thread/post in Amora forum. I tried to compare the asha(2ct) to my diamond(0.85ct) but it's too different in size and in color, and unfortunately I dont have a bigger/lighter diamond. So I cant say asha looks real, although I can say it's very beautiful and also very different from most cheap CZ's.


Well, somethings I noticed from my POOR comparison. This is only "vs my diamond" and might not be right.

1. Asha has more "rainbow" flash. (my diamond flashes but not so colorful.)
2. Asha has higher crown. (my diamond looks flatter from side view.)
3. Asha has smaller table, 60%. (my diamond has 68% table. Most diamond has 65-75%.)
4. Asha does "windowing". (my diamond doesnt, maybe because it's small? )
5. From the top view, it's like Asha has many tiny shiny DOTS inside, while my diamond shows "X"-ish shape inside.


I really love my asha and I really wanna keep it. I'm hoping that I can pass it off as a diamond but I'm not enough confident because of those differences, plus, I have never seen a 2ct princess diamond in person. How can I say it looks the same as what I have never seen! And I know pictures dont help enough...

Maybe asha is too perfect. Maybe a really good diamond doesnt show "X"-ish shape inside. I know it's said smaller table is better for princess cut and it's VERY hard to find it. For example if you go on "bluenile" and check 2 ct princess, most things you see are around 73-75%. So "60% table + 2ct" sounds just very expensive/almost impossible,unreal. (You can easily tell the difference between 60% and even 68%.) About windowing, I read the thread here and saw pictures, someone's princess cut(3ct?) does windowing and my asha acts exactly in the same way in the same angle. I know some diamonds in ANOTHER SAHPE do windowing but I have never heard "princess cut diamonds do windowing" .


I just wanna be 100% confident with my asha but something is bothering me in my head... I know the smaller the stone is the more real look you can get. Maybe 2 ct is too big to have a real look... I have once thought going with 1.5ct but I wanted a bigger one!!

I will start by saying this is MY opinion and it is not meant to say anything negative about Asha or the people who love them. There, that said.....I have a 1.5 ct Asha pendant Princess cut and a real diamond E-ring, Princess cut. I too thought the stone was beautiful at first. At first. Unfortunately for me I just couldn't get past some things (and it seems like you are having the same reservations i had). I can say that it does not look like my e-ring and it is not just because of color. You are 100% right that the windowing is significant in the Asha. So much so that when I look at it in any other position it just looks like glass. My natural diamond doesn't do this. Yes, some cuts in diamonds window also, but not a princess to this extent. I also agree with your picking up on the higher crown. My diamond is also flat and this bothered me. I went to my jeweler to compare and their tables were flat as well. I also noticed the lack of depth and steely look in the Asha. It is that steeliness that makes a diamond look so "diamondlike" in my opinion. The cut is different from mine too-yup, no crisp faceted X in the asha. My other problem is it gets so dirty so quickly. Even in a pendant it seems to just get dirty on its own. I just don't feel like i can in any way wear it with the confidence that it won't be questioned. It is a shame too b/c I so wanted to love it. I think it may be better served in a bezel setting where all you can see is the face. I can say though that I have seen the Round Brilliants and they are far more realistic. They have less windowing and have more depth. Maybe I am just too sensitive, maybe the majority of people wouldn't know the difference but to me, it just didn't look right. I had to love it. I just wish I could have sent it back and added to my Amora savings plan but since I begged for it from my husband for so long I had to be grateful and keep it. IMO, if soemthing doesn't strike you right about it, don't assume you will learn to love it. Maybe you will, but then again maybe you won't and then it will be too late. And these aren't exactly pocketchange cz's. I am waiting for as long as it takes for the new Princess Amora Gem as it looks like it will give us princess lovers something to really drool over! I wish you the best of luck in your decision!

I think it may be the same as the emerald cut unbelievabilty, that some people have commented on. When you love a stone cut, you see it in a way that others maybe don`t. I am not a princess cut fan, so to me, it looks 100% believable, as I have not really spent a lot of time staring at real ones, nor comparing them. The people that love and own diamond ECs never seem to love the sim version as much. Now I can see the glassiness that people have photographed and described, but it is in macro mode photos when I am looking for something that someone has alread say is there.

So, I think when it comes down to it, it will pass a diamond 99% of the time, as long as you are confident wearing it and rock it as `real`. It you are nervous about it though, that will make it harder for you to pass off.

I am the same with cushion cut stones, and have spent hours upon hours staring and obsessing over my diamond cushion, so when I compare moissy or cz to it, they really never compare, and lack something...cz lacks the same depth, and moissy just doesn`t have the right cut or table. Not saying that I don`t love my moissy though But it does look different.

I think this is very accurate!

Most people are going to look at a princess cut and think "square diamond" anyway. I have met very few people who are not interested in stones even know that there was a difference between a square brilliant, or a princess cut, or heck even a square radiant. I have met just as many who had no idea that rounds came in so many versions (modern round brilliant, OEC, solasfera, H&A). They just see round. It is more the individual interested in that stuff who will know. Heck, I have met people wearing stones who had no idea what kind of cut it was and did not really care, they just knew it was round, square or rectangular and whether they liked it or not!

Like jcent, princess cuts are not my thing. I will recognize one, but I certainly do not know all the ins and outs of them! I would have no idea if I saw your stone whether it was a genuine princess cut or not!

That being said, if it bugs you and you don't like it, well, you just don't like it and it is likely those things that bug you about it will just bug you MORE as time goes on.

i LOVE princess cuts

i started out with a 6mm princess cut winfields CZ in my ring. later we upgraded to a princess cut diamond. even though i was CONVINCED that people would notice the difference and then i'd have to give a good reason why my ring suddenly looked different...but nobody has. to this day, not even my mother realizes that my stone is a diamond and not the winfields CZ it started out with

but i do have to admit, the thing that bugs me the most about princess cut sims is the windowing. i'm hoping the amora princess cut gem WON'T have windowing.

I agree with all the above.

I had a princess cut asha and loved the sparkle but couldn't get past the windowing. I have never seen a 1.5ct princess cut diamond so I wasn't sure if diamonds did this as well.

Because of this I wasn't confident showing my ring off, so it was really just the way I felt and a confidence thing. Nobody ever asked me if it was real they just complimented me on a beautiful ring. So I think it all depends how YOU feel about wearing it.

Here is a thread on princess cut Ashas and windowing: Windowing in largers stones & shapes?

Thanks ladies,

I agree, most people dont know the details about princess cut, they just see "square". I thought about myself... if you have a RB, I probably cant tell if it's real or fake, If you have an emerald cut, I just think it's a beautiful cut. I have no idea what other cuts really should look because I have never paid attention to them. Well, princess cut is pretty popular in the states. How many people do you think are knowledgeable enough to notice the difference?


Yesterday, I went to 2 jewelry stores to see "real one". I'd like to share this experience with you because some of you have never seen it in person, just like me until yesterday.　

The first store was in the local mall, the clark showed me 1ct princess cut ring. Unfortunately 1ct was the biggest one they had in the store. I tried to focus on the facet, and shape/shadow inside the stone. He said it was an ideal cut, but it looked different from regular princess cut. It had a small table just like my asha, and had a "X line" just like moissanite's square cut. I asked him what kind of "ideal cut" it is, but he was like a robot, didnt answer. I coudnt believe... a sales clark should be more helpful and he didnt even smile to me. I was dressed up very fashionably and nicely, so should have looked "enough rich to buy diamond" though. I was very uncomfortable being there and left the store within 3 min. I was hoping that I could ask him to compare my asha to their diamond but it didnt happen.



The second store was in another mall. They had huuuuuge/wide selection and the clark was very friendly. (I'm very happy I went there.) She showed me some diamond rings and looses as well, she even let me use her loupe to see inclusion! I focused on princess cut, 1.5ct and 2ct, E/F color and J color. Well, they look exactly same as my diamond. They had "X shape", bigger table(around 68-70%), flatter crown. Loose diamonds had more "rainbow" color than ones in the rings, and the one with some fluorescence looked similar to my asha in color. Since she was so nice and probably thought I was really planning on buying something, I couldnt mention about asha... But I saw enough diamonds and I'm kind of sure my asha would have looked different next to those diamonds.


On my first post, I pointed 5 things. My biggest concern is 5th one, asha doesnt have "X-ish shape". Smaller table, higher crown might be ok as "its character", and rainbow color might be ok as well, as someone said in another thread "you can say this one has strong fluorescence". But not having "X-ish shape" might be the sign to be spoted. This "X", crushed ice shape is something real diamonds almost always have, and I think this makes it look "real". About windowing, well, the clark had a huge 3-4 ct cushion cut diamond and it DID "windowing", I saw it many times!!! But it looked still "real" not "glassy".


From this experience, my opinion is, "Yes, asha princess cut looks little different from real diamond even if you dont have it next to it. You will notice the difference if you are a big fan of princess cut, but you will not if you are not. Even for jewelers it might be difficult to notice the difference when they are more than 5feet away from your ring." I love my asha and I think I will wear it but I dont think I will go to the jewelry store with it because now I know it looks different and cant be confident in where experts are.

I am a HUGE fan of what I'll call 'square diamonds' and have been for many years. I'm still in love with the diamond from my first engagement ring, which I was told was a .53 ct princess cut. After my crazed search to find a perfect engagement ring this time around, I noticed that what the jewelry stores in my area ALL call Princess Cuts are actually all Square Brilliants. This forum is what first led me to this conclusion, since I too was concerned that any square stone other than a diamond had a much smaller table and looked visibly different and I hated it. I wanted it to look exactly like all my square brilliant jewelry.
I finally decided to do a side by side picture comparison of similar rings from Asha Diamonds and Moissanite Co. The difference is HUGE! Asha's are true princess (I think, I've never actually seen a true princess) while Moissanite is the Square Brilliant I'm used to. Since I've heard both websites use actual photos of actual rings and not computer images, this cinched it for me. Apparently I am very much not a fan of princess cuts, but am a lunatic for Square Brilliants. Do you think this could be the same story for you?

I'm not sure how many people have read the report shown on our Asha princess page, so here is a quick summary:

"In order to ensure that our princess cut was produced as ideally as possible, we asked David Atlas, inventor of the AGA-CERT diamond cut classes, to review our Asha princess. The full report is available here, but the takeaway summary was this:"



Note that the 'four' was because he compared the Asha princess to three other diamond princess cuts, shown here:



Here is the full page from the link on our old site - note that this was for a prior version of Asha so the color grade was D/E:




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