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#351571 - 09/27/07 07:47 AM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diam [Re: Cricketgrrl]
gemcat Moderator Offline
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Registered: 04/17/05
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I have several Ashas, Winefield's (still in love with my Vatche and OEC), and moissys and wear them often.
Yes, there is a difference between the CZs and the moissy that you can tell if you know what to look for. If your family/friends are really knowledgeable about diamonds they might be able to spot the moissy due to its double refraction. The Ashas and Winefield's, however, they won't unless they use a loupe and really know what to look for.
I suggest you order one of each and compare them yourself. Keep the one you love best and return the others. \:\)
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#351597 - 09/27/07 10:45 AM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diam [Re: gemcat]
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Registered: 09/25/07
Posts: 16
Loc: Colorado
Thank you all for your 2cents!! I think I have made the decision. Now onto the setting...UGG...Who knew picking out jewelry would be so tough!
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#351611 - 09/27/07 11:39 AM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diam [Re: SoonerOrLater]
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 Originally Posted By: SoonerOrLater
You're good as long as you don't spell tomato "tomatoe". hehe


Hey hey hey! I do NOT resemble that man at all!
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#351612 - 09/27/07 11:43 AM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diam [Re: gemcat]
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Registered: 08/20/04
Posts: 4823
Loc: Boise, Idaho
 Originally Posted By: gemcat
I have several Ashas, Winefield's (still in love with my Vatche and OEC), and moissys and wear them often.
Yes, there is a difference between the CZs and the moissy that you can tell if you know what to look for. If your family/friends are really knowledgeable about diamonds they might be able to spot the moissy due to its double refraction. The Ashas and Winefield's, however, they won't unless they use a loupe and really know what to look for.
I suggest you order one of each and compare them yourself. Keep the one you love best and return the others. \:\)


Ah, now there is a name I could go for. Wine Fields, if you ferment it they will come... Sip. Ahhhh. Man that is Good!

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#351648 - 09/27/07 02:49 PM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diam [Re: Wink]
gemcat Moderator Offline
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Registered: 04/17/05
Posts: 3585
Loc: San Antonio, TX
 Originally Posted By: Wink
 Originally Posted By: gemcat
I have several Ashas, Winefield's (still in love with my Vatche and OEC), and moissys and wear them often.
Yes, there is a difference between the CZs and the moissy that you can tell if you know what to look for. If your family/friends are really knowledgeable about diamonds they might be able to spot the moissy due to its double refraction. The Ashas and Winefield's, however, they won't unless they use a loupe and really know what to look for.
I suggest you order one of each and compare them yourself. Keep the one you love best and return the others. \:\)


Ah, now there is a name I could go for. Wine Fields, if you ferment it they will come... Sip. Ahhhh. Man that is Good!

Wink


My apologies, Wink. I really should learn to proof read my writing better before I post it.
Folks, it is my Winfield's stones that I love so much.


Edited by gemcat (09/27/07 02:49 PM)
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#351652 - 09/27/07 03:03 PM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diamond? [Re: Cricketgrrl]
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Registered: 09/22/07
Posts: 1441
Loc: Quebec Canada
 Originally Posted By: Cricketgrrl
 Originally Posted By: stci
IMO, all depend of the quality of the diamond. If you compare a diamond with a fair or good cut, it's possible that the sim look better or equal but if you compare with a diamond with an excellent or superior cut, the sim will look fade.


The first Asha ring I had was an E-colored, 1.5ct H&A round brilliant solitaire. A friend of mine wanted to upgrade her E-colored, VVS .75ct RB genuine diamond. Her hubby's face said it all, when he looked at the Asha beside the diamond -- he was horrified that there was no visible difference even with a loupe. \:\/ I decided I wanted an H-colored Asha, so my friend instantly bought the E-colored Asha from me, and wears it daily as her upgraded diamond.


For me... this story had no sense! One more time... if a diamond cut is not excellent it's possible that the simulant look more nice side by side but if you try to compare a simulant with a BEAUTIFUL diamond hey...impossible to make mistake!

If simulant where so fantastic, I suppose nobody want to pay for a real diamond no? Don't forget there is bad diamonds and it's not new... the quality of the cut is the first element to have a beautiful diamond.
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#351654 - 09/27/07 03:17 PM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diamond? [Re: stci]
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Registered: 06/04/07
Posts: 455
Loc: California
The quality of the cut seems to be the essential factor in ALL stones from diamonds to sims. I think that the reason why most people would buy a diamond over a simulant that looks exactly the same is because:
1.) well cut simulants that are comparable to diamonds are rare, or at least don't seem to be mainstream so most people do not even know that they are an option. For example, I have known about Moissanite for YEARS, but I did not know about well cut CZ and Asha stones until earlierl this year.
2.) the diamond industry has a very clever marketing scam going on, which makes everyone believe that diamonds are "better" than sims, so even if they could not tell the difference some people would not want to wear sims because they believe they are inferior to diamonds. We have had many dicussions here about people who look down on sims as not good enough or equal to a diamond.

I'm sure that for everyone, what they see is in the eye of the beholder. Most probably would not want to admit that a sim could hold its weight against a well-cut diamond.

I think that eventually the trend will be to move away from diamonds since pretty soon there will be colorless lab diamonds that are "real" diamonds.

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#351659 - 09/27/07 03:41 PM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diamond? [Re: CurlySparkle]
sevenkitty Offline
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Registered: 06/28/07
Posts: 107
Loc: Oregon
I have a three stone ring with real RB .54 SI1 F colored diamond side stones and a RB 1.25 asha for the center and when I wore it into a jewelry store one of the sales people grabbed my hand and said "that is so gorgeous" he held it up close and took a good long look. Then he said it was very very nice. I fessed up that only the sides were real and he was shocked. All three stones sparkle like the dickens.
I also have a three stone ring with .26 I1 k colored sides with a .5 moissanite center and they match perfectly and I would never ever be able to tell the center was not a diamond.
I think both are very good choices and for me it really comes down to color...the ashas have a whiter color than most moissanite.
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#351664 - 09/27/07 03:57 PM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diamond? [Re: stci]
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Registered: 03/25/07
Posts: 15874
Loc: VA
 Originally Posted By: stci
 Originally Posted By: Cricketgrrl
 Originally Posted By: stci
IMO, all depend of the quality of the diamond. If you compare a diamond with a fair or good cut, it's possible that the sim look better or equal but if you compare with a diamond with an excellent or superior cut, the sim will look fade.


The first Asha ring I had was an E-colored, 1.5ct H&A round brilliant solitaire. A friend of mine wanted to upgrade her E-colored, VVS .75ct RB genuine diamond. Her hubby's face said it all, when he looked at the Asha beside the diamond -- he was horrified that there was no visible difference even with a loupe. \:\/ I decided I wanted an H-colored Asha, so my friend instantly bought the E-colored Asha from me, and wears it daily as her upgraded diamond.


For me... this story had no sense! One more time... if a diamond cut is not excellent it's possible that the simulant look more nice side by side but if you try to compare a simulant with a BEAUTIFUL diamond hey...impossible to make mistake!

If simulant where so fantastic, I suppose nobody want to pay for a real diamond no? Don't forget there is bad diamonds and it's not new... the quality of the cut is the first element to have a beautiful diamond.


The story makes perfect sense to me. These simulants ARE fantastic, which is why I didn't pay for a mined diamond. Yes, the cut is essential in having a beautiful diamond, but I think what Cricketgrrl meant was she compared her Asha with her friend's very nice, very beautiful real diamond, and there was no difference between the two.
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#351671 - 09/27/07 04:38 PM Re: Does the Asha or Moiss really look like a diamond? [Re: Blingaholic]
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Registered: 09/22/07
Posts: 1441
Loc: Quebec Canada
Wow girls! If it's true, I'm idiot to pay thousand dollars for a real diamond! But....... if I know it's a simulant, I won't feel confortable... What's my problem? It's in my head I think! Grrrr.....
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